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Ko_Cho

Sadly the major FDIs boosted in 2005-2006 are not in self-production, manufacturing or something that would sustain our economic deelopment in long term. Mass Chinese and Indian investments come from oil and gas as well as mining sectors which would drain out our resources.
Hopefully, another big source of FDI in Ta Sang hydropower project with Thailand would execute environmental impact assesments (EIA) or else, it will be another source of damaging our natural environment in the region.

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&if;ESD;NrkyfESHrSK hrsKd; r[kwfwm 0rf;enf;p&mbJ/ tJ'grsdK;awGrsm;rsm; vmygapbJqkawmif;&rSmbJ/

Kalvin

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Ko_Cho

apwemeJ hawmh r[kwfbl;ayghAsm/

tdef'd,rSm edkifiHNcm; &if;ESD;NrSyfESHrSK awGxJrSm tdkifwDenf;ynmawG bmawGrsm;w,fAsm/  Outsource awG t&rf;&w,f/ w&kwf? ,dk;',m;? AD,uferfrSmu ukefxkwfvkyfrSK hawGrsm;w,fAsm/ 'DvdkrsdK;&if;ESD;NrSKyfESHrSK hawGqdk  uRefawmfwdk h ydktusdK;&Sdwmaygh/ udku,fvfAifwdk hvdk t&nftcsif;rSD ynm&SifawG tm;udk;eJ h uRefawmfwdk  hwdkif;Nynf zGH hNzdK;edkifacs&Sdwmaygh/ a&&SnfvJ t&Sdef&r,fav/ vlom;t&if;tNrpfvJ wdk;wufoxuf wufvmr,f/ udku,fvfAifvJ ukvm;awG wwfoavmuf wwfwmbJ/ Microsoft certificate wlwl&wmbJ Oyrm/ ckawmh olwdk hutJ'DuaeaiGawG oJ h,laeNyD; uRefawmfwdk hqDu obm0 t&if;tNrpfudk aygacskmifaumif; vmedSKufwm rcHcsifvdk hyg/

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qufaNym&&ifawmh [dkblwmbJ qdkufrSmqdkawmh aNymawmhygbl;Asm/

Kalvin

Outsource &zdkUrSm tqifhqifh yHhydk;rIawGvdkw,f/ Time Critical Business jzpfvdkU 100% Perfect Communication System vdktyfw,f/ Secure Workforce vdktyfw,f/ Stable Business Operation jzpfaMumif; ,Hkavmufatmif jyEdkifzdkUvdkw,f/ 'gawGr&SdbJ b,folrS bmrS vmvkyfrSmr[kwf/
 
SEMEWE Line jywfvdkU rESpfu u&mcsdrSm IT Outsourcing Firms awG &uftenf;i,ftwGif; jyKwfoGm;w,f/ 'DESpfrSm olwdkU Alternate Line xyf,lxm;w,f/ 'gu Continuos Communication Enable jzpfaMumif;eJU Predictable Disater awGuae Secure jzpfaMumif; oufaojywm/
 
Secure Workforce r&SdbJ Outsource u tvkyfrjzpfEdkif? b,folurSm IT Specialist &mcsDjyD; wpfygwfq,f&uftwGif; r&SmEdkif ( r&Sdudkr&Sdwm )/ 'Du IT orm;awGu wpfudk,fawmf odkif;orm;awGvdk udk,fhbmom ynm&Sm? udk,fhbmomavhusifh,l qdkwmawGrsm;w,f/
 
Special Trained Person r&Sdoavmuf &Sm;w,f/ ( wpfa,mufrSudk rawGUzl;ao;bl;/ ) OyrmAsm .. PHP Programmer 30 avmuf Senior Level r[kwfawmifrS tawmftwefa&;EdkifwJhtqifh 3&ufavmuftwGif;&Smay;ygqdk&if aoa&m/ 
 
'gjzifh MudKcefUxm;ygvm;qdk&if vcudk b,foluay;rvJ/ ( tJoavmufydkufqH&if;EdkifwJhvlawGuvJ 'DavmuxJ 0ifrvmbl;/ )
 
rufvHk;awGawmh&Sdw,f .. vkyfaeqJvlawGvJ&Sdw,f/ odyfMuD;ratmifjrif&jcif;taMumif;&if;rSm tjcm; Issue awG&Sdao;w,f/  ( 'gawGawmhra&;awmhbl; qifqm ) wjcm;EdkifiHoGm;tvkyfvkyfvdkU wvudk $1000~$1200 &r,fhvlu 'DrSm $500~$600 avmufeJUaysmfaysmfMuD; vkyfEdkifw,f/ $1500~$2000 &EdkifwJhvlu 'DrSm $800~$1000 avmufeJU vkyfEdkifw,f/
 
jrefrmjynfjzpfvdkU jrefrmvdkae? jrefrmvdkajym? jrefrmvdk pm;aomuf&wm? todkif;t0dkif;eJU ruGJruGmae&wmrsKd;udk 10a,mufrSm teJqHk; 8a,mufavmufuawmh vdkcsifMuolawGyJ/ aemufawmhjzpfvmrSmyg/ jzpfvJ jzpfvmapcsifygw,f/
 
India udk ,SOfzdkUrvG,fyg/ Bangalore vdkrsKd; wpfck&SdvmjyD; olUtyHkwpf&myHk wpfyHkavmuf vkyfEdkif&ifawmif wpfESpfudk a':vmoef;eJUcsDjyD; EdkifiHjcm;0ifaiG&r,f/ avmavmq,f Bangalore u &if;ESD;jrKyfESHrIawGu Nearly 50 Bil USD &Sdw,f/
 
Third World Country wpfcktaeeJU tjrefqHk; ckefwufzdkUu 'DwpfckyJ &SdawmhovdkyJ/ ( uRefawmfhtjrifoufoufyg .. rSm;,Gif;Edkifygw,f/ )

Ko_Cho

udku,fvfAifhtNrif rrSm;ygbl;As/ rSefygw,f/ wu,fhvuf&SdtaNctaeudkvJ xif[yfygw,f/

uRefawmf Nznfhcsifwmav;u udku,fvfAifaNymoGm;wJ h yxrydk'fu Stabe, Secure, (time) Criticle business resources  awG&Sdvm? Nzpfvmatmifvkyfvdk h &w,fqdkwmav;yg/ r&dk hpfwdk hqDu
Director Ko TTTwdk hvdk h vlawGudk edkifiHawmf tqifheJ h Nyif;Nyif;xefxef yHhydk;ay;r,f? arG;xkwfay;r,f/ tdkifwDtifz&mydkif;udk a'gifa'gifNrnfatmif OD;wnfcsufwpf&yf xm;NyD;vkyfr,fqdk rNzpfedkifp&mrS&Sdbl;As/ MIT, ACE vdkawG rsm;rsm;arG;ay;vdk h&w,f/ tdef'D,uvJ tyfcsavmif;qdkNyD; NzpfoGm;wmr[kwfbl;As/ 'Dvdk Vision eJ hbJ 10ESpf 15ESpf twGif;wufoGm;wm/ (ckxvkyf&ifawmh olhudkawmh rrSDbl;ayghAsm? ,SOfvdk hvJ r&ygbl;av/ odk haomf edkifiHtwGuf trsm;MuD; taxmuftul&edkifygw,f? bef*avm&J h 20yHk 1yHkbJ&OD;awmh? uRefawmdwdk h twdkif;twmav;eJ haygh)

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tjcm; Issue awG&Sdao;w,f/
odk haomf 'gawG[m &Sif;vdkhawmhvJ&ygw,fAsm.../ r&Sif;csif&ifawmhvJ wpfrsdK;aygh/

wu,fqdk&ifawmh tJ'Dtydkif;udk (
Nyif;Nyif;xefxef) vkyfcsifwJ h edKifiHa&;-pD;yGm;a&; tNrif&Sdzdk hbJvdkovm;vdkh/ 'gu tdkifwDqufwmbJ&Sdao;w,f/ wNcm; pdkufysdK;a&;? arG;NrLa&;? pwmawGvJ&SdaewmbJ/ uRefawmfwdk hqDrSm eLenf;ynmwdk h? ysOf;rem;aeNynfwdk hudkawmif taumiftxnfazmfedkifpGrf;&if (twdkif;twmwckckxd)? udku,fvfAifaNymoGm;wmawG udk wu,fvkyfcsifpdwf&Sd&if &edkifw,fxifwmbJAs/ wu,fwwfolawGeJ h vufwGJvdkhayghaemf/

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xifoavmufeJeJav;aNymMunfhwmygAsm/

aemufqHk;wpfcku edkifiHpD;yGm;a&; ay:vpDrSm
Golden Rule wpfck&Sdw,fAs? 'gayr,fh ukdu,fvfAifaNymovdkbJ uRefawmfwdk htwGuf vdkufemzdkhcufcJw,f/ tJ'gu edkifiHpD;yGm;a&; ay:vpD wpfckckcsr,fqdk&if aemufrsdK;quf 0efydapr,fh [mrsdK;udka&Smifzdkh/ o,HZmwxkwf&mrSm Nzpfap? aiGacs;&mrSm Nzpfap? obm0ywf0ef;usifqdkif&m? b,fvdk[mrsdK;NzpfNzpf aemifESpf 20-30 ckacwfvlawG r&SdwJ h (tdkukefwJh) aemufydkif; aemufrsdK;qufawG[m uRefawmfwdk haMumifh 0efydNyD; rusefcJ hapoifhzdk h cifAsm/ ckvwfwavm a&wdkav;udk MunfhvdkufNyD; vG,fvG,f&rSmudk rvkyfoifhbl;vdk h 'DOya'o uqdkw,f/ b,fedkifiHNzpfNzpfaygh/ 'gayr,fh 'DvdkrSrvkyf&if vwfwavm 'kufca&mufoGm;rSmaygh qdkwJh tydkif;uvJ&Sdaewmayghaemf/

qdkawmhum? xdef;xdef;odrf;odrf;av; vkyfMu&if a&&Snf eJeJtqifaNyrvm;vdkh/ ckawmh w&kwf? ukvm;eJh xdkif;awGu 'D2005-2006 ckESpf udef;*Pef;awGt& uRefawmfwdk hqDu r[m;'&m; tpGrf;ukef tqDvmpkwfovdk Nzpfaeovm;vdkhyg/ ukefcef;wwfwJ h t&mawG r[kwfvm;/ uRefawmfwdk h om;orD; aNr;NrpfawG udkaxmufzdk haygh/

udku,fvfAifaNymwmvJ rSefygw,f/ wwd,urfbmqdkawmh/ NyD;awmhvJ.... ydwfqdkhwJholawG &Sdaeawmh/ (xdef;a&;ae&awmh uRefawmfa&;wm eJeJtlaMumifaMumifqefoGm;&if aqm&D;Asm)/ rvG,fwmawmh trSefygbJAsm/ ckuawmh ckNyoem ck&Sif;? aemifcgvmaemifaps;aygh/

 
Credit to Ko Cho and Kalvin for this post
 
Ko_Cho has his own blog ( Click to goto his blog )
 

Published by Kalvin on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 at 6:54 PM.

5 Responses to “Outsource Talk with Ko Cho”

  1. # Blogger Myanmar Blues

    Thanks Ko Kalvin.. Can I request to put this link infront? SO that readers will understand ... what we are talking about..
    http://english.people.com.cn/200610/15/eng20061015_311899.html  

  2. # Blogger kyawmintun

    အခု က်ေနာ္လည္း အျပင္ မွာ programmer လုပ္ေနတာပဲ။ သူတို႔ နဲ႔ ယွဥ္ျပီးလုပ္ႏိုင္တယ္။ တစ္ကိုယ္ေတာ္ သိုင္းသမားလို က်င္႔ခဲ႔ရတာ ေတြ ကိုယ္ရခဲ႔တဲ႔ ကကြန္ပ်ဴတာ ဘြဲ႔က တကယ္ အသံုး၀င္ပါတယ္။ အင္း …လိုရင္း မေရာက္ဘူးျဖစ္ေနအံုးမယ္။ က်ေနာ္ ကိုယ္တိုင္လည္း ျပည္တြင္းမွာ outsourcing ျဖစ္ေစခ်င္ပါတယ္။ ေနာက္ျပီးေတာ႔ တကယ္႔ကို ေဒါင္ေဒါင္ျမည္ programmer ေတြသာမက System Analysis ေတြပါ ရွိေစခ်င္တယ္။ ေနာက္ျပီးေတာ႔ တကယ္ေကာင္းတဲ႔ စိတ္ခ်ရတဲ႔ communication line ပါ။ အျပင္မွာ ရွိတဲ႔ ျမန္မာ programmer ေတြလဲ ဒီလို အေျခအေန ရွိလာရင္ ျပန္၀င္လာက်မွာပါ။ ….ဟဲဟဲ က်ေနာ္ ထိပ္ဆံုးက ေန ျပန္၀င္မယ္ ။  

  3. # Blogger Kalvin

    Yes Ko Cho, I had updated the post with the link.  

  4. # Blogger Ravi

    I think another point we need to think is identification. We are right now trying to identify ourselves with fella Burmese. I have seen many coming to ask questions on Myanmar Programmers Group, Myanmar Web Devlopers Group, Bagan Net Forums and so on and on. They need to move out from there and think internationally. That is where they will have the real answers. If you are stuck in PHP, and go to Myanmar site to get you answers you won't get them, since like you mentioned there is little who knows PHP. So we need to go international. It maybe harder to become a part of those forums out there, but it must be done.

    Another is IRC (sad that EFNet etc are banned here, but for those lucky enough who knows how to access them should visit those IRC Channels and hang in there).

    Very good post. Kudos.  

  5. # Blogger seinmyoutmyout

    I think all are base upon the Politics.  

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